Friday, December 22, 2017

Online Marketing is very interesting. There is an entire cottage industry of persons working in marketing and working entirely online. The infrastructure around this is getting more robust all the time. There are content curation and provisioning companies, and many major long standing vendors offer affiliate channels to encourage web creators to post affiliate linked ads on their sites. Although the conventional "purchase ad, and place online" model appears to reign supreme, there is this substantial, though smaller independent, third party marketplace where content creation, marketing and product curation and hosting is operating on a different basis.

Monday, November 23, 2009

So I am busying myself with Music and Computing

So it is fairly official: I am playing bone as much as is humanly possible, while also training and improving my computing skills (these devices seem to be with us for the long run...). So, it would also make sense for me to post here more often.

I just got off a weekend out of town gig and am back in Van Nuys practicing, taking calls and cleaning up my kit (bones, clothes, mute bag)

Will play a rehearsal tonight and a few this week, though Thanksgiving will interrupt and therefore this week will likely be light.

Saturday, October 03, 2009

Mostly practicing and networking

I seem to be continuing to practice and practice. One thing this is showing me, is that I need to continue to do this to improve as a jazz improviser. I am often simply in the other room with a boombox and some Aebersolds..

..when not cleaning the horn or running through basic chop "calisthenics". Otherwise, I will be playing something written, such as Rochut, or various recital style music....I have a bit of a collection of trombone recital type music....


I could be trying out some kind of "stunt"....

Stunt stuff would be going over and playing and practicing something you would not normally think a bone player would do. Recent examples are:

Circular breathing...more and more intricate efforts at polishing this activity.

Using the Yamaha practice mute to create an electronic instrument similar to an electric guitar (solid body type). This is demonstrated by Italian trombonist Nicola Ferro:


Learning the "Marie" trumpet solo done by Bunny Berigan....

That is just some stuff...also trying to stay on top of chores and what is going on in the world of the internet and software....web.....digi audio and video....

...and make all the gigs and rehearsals.....

not that I am dealing with too many gigs....some....

Wednesday, September 30, 2009

More and more music ... seems to be a whirlwind

I am now taking everything I can in trombone land. I am trying to get the word out that I am the darndest, super-cool, freelancer trombone player you will ever have in your group...(hear that, contractors?). Have extensive experience in Top 40 band/ R&B...Jazz groups large and small....orchestras...chamber music (e.g. brass quintet) church music, theater work onstage and in the pit, and recordings.

I am in the Local 47 directory (will be in 2010 book), and can be reached at

(818) 309-8804 or (818) 763-9397

I come in from the Van Nuys area, so I'm centrally located for most LA based work. I also enjoy doing work with many of my longstanding friends from Orange County. So, I really get around this great big city.

So I am doing quite a lot of playing. Keeping my Union dues up, too!

[above is the racked equipment used in a festival here in town... also, you can see a big band setting up in Simi Valley, and nearby, and the thing we all like--applause...well, an "applause" sign, anyway..]

Thursday, August 06, 2009

Nice to have a good gig...

The music business can be pretty exasperating...perhaps Hunter S. Thompson had it right:

The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs
. There's also a negative side.

Be prepared to laugh if you decide to be a will be a better survival tool than the most powerful military hardware...and try not to be too much of a "good man"...

So that brings me to last nite's was great. I played with a great leader and band and his full troop of Rat Pack look alikes. We had Dean, Sammy and even Susan who is perhaps the most remarkeable Marilyn Monroe look alike in the world.

So, even though we had to do the somewhat corny "I Want to be Loved By You" and the other Monroe tunes, which are naturally a bit spoofy (it is important to note that the audience really gets a laugh out of this part of the show, as some poor schmoe gets his temperature raised by "Ms. Monroe" and her...anatomy)we had an hour or two where we did fake book work on "Song for My Father" and "Days of Wine and Roses" and "Moonglow" and so forth. The group included one of the best jazz trumpeters in the area, and perhaps in the world...and of course the woodwind guy and pianist were great jazz players. So I had to come up to the occasion...

I feel I did come up to the occasion. I used my good tone quality and some imagination as I did my style which is more of a "back to basics" with swing kind of style.

Anyway this situation make me feel like there is somebody out there listening and enjoying themselves. That is the whole point of playing a horn. To put smiles on faces...and it does not hurt that the rest on the band and leading or doing frontman work are nice folks who are great to work with. So thus goes a "good gig"

So it is nice to come back to town and have entertained someone.

Thursday, July 09, 2009

Changing and changing times....I've MOVED!

Well, the more things change, well...the more they change!

I no longer work as controller for Western Studio Services...there is probably not a lot to be gained by going over was a very, very stressful job, so things are better that way, for sure.

That situation forced a coming to grips with the mortgage loan. That means selling Alcove Ave and taking the remaining equity out, waiting until the FICO improves and then re-entering the San Fernando Valley real estate market...

So now (as of mid 2009) the Tunes have moved to Van Nuys, into a smaller (1230 sq ft as opposed to 1640 sq ft) 3 bd home. This one has a pool, which is unusual for us Tunes. Nice garage...have to set up the packed stuff better to allow for a shop and so forth.

So in 2011 will be looking for a home in the valley. I'm thinking of going for land, and building to suit added size and rooms onto an existing structure. I find I really like carpentry, masonry, electrical, all that stuff. Thing to do, though is to find a way to make enough money to do all this building onto the home. All, while allowing for my personality and my music, and so forth...

Will be interesting times...what with the poor economy and with my highly varied interests and abilities.

I'm praying...I know G_d helps those who get up and move their derrieres. So off I go to do more work...


Wednesday, August 20, 2008

More Web

Now we have set up with Fluidhosting. The URL of does not have its "A" record set over to the new octet of the website hosting company. I will switch that on Network Solutions.

The way the records for DNS work on INTERNIC and Network Solutions is pretty interesting. Once you log into the editing tool on Network Solutions and you look at the mappings, you can see how your email and remote login could be done to your MS Exchange and SBS server WAN interface, while your website with the same ending of the Domain name ( could very well point elsewhere.

That is what we are going to do. I appear to have to edit the "A" record and change the OCTET that shows in only one area of the record. Then, the domain name lookups and propagation of the tables will occur allowing users of web browsers to hit and go to our new website.

Fascinating, really. . .

I've now got the pages set up for the main frontpage, the "about" page and all the locations maps. This is all set up with CSS so that you see a unified, floating, three-column layout with a widescreen picture of the buildings and yard at the Burbank facility. Menu is in upper right, and is totally CSS. This set of pages will really "pop" or "crack" onto screen. They are extreme in their compactness.

I still have the chore of creating web friendly reduced footprint images for use in a prototype picture gallery. The gallery will be the way to handle the subject of "lockup storage", or "storage", or "vehicles", or "trailers". The idea is to have a CSS based rollover gallery with bunches of text either before or below or as part of picture roll data, and then allow reasonably smallish jpg images to come up showing the good photos I got of all the facilities and types of rentals.

First I need to iron out the difficulties in getting a CSS based gallery to set right in the prototype page.

The Map thing went very well, and I would think that is harder. So I should be able to get the gallery done within a day or two or three.

Maybe I can look at how this is done on BLOGS. . .or Myspace or similar.

. . .hmmmmm.

Well, now I'm off to a rehearsal with Pierce College Jazz Band. Always busy.

Thursday, August 07, 2008

Stay Tuned for Web Dev Stuff

I'm doing the build of into a "customer oriented" web site. That means I'm taking the same marketing oriented basic website and changing it into a modern CSS based site with a logon for designated customers (several at first. . .possibly more later) who will be able to access a secure area to see PDF versions of their current inventory as printed by Michael Brittain.

Michael's database is based upon Filemaker, which is currently at version 9. I can see there is a web section to the filemaker product. It is possible I will ultimately have to either migrate the database to a SQL type engine like SQL Server or MySQL and have Michael's database talk to that, or to have the Filemaker work through the net with remote logons managed through the website.

For a first run, I'm interested in getting Filemaker reports available on a logged on basis, then I'll attack the redesign necessary to allow for up-to-the-minute access of a database of inventory specifics with possible online control of various queries and reports.

Meanwhile the CSS part of the redesign seems to be going well. I've got a template and an image that is fixed for the front page. I've come up with a set of verbiage for the promotional part. I'm in process of getting Google Maps signed up (that is how I wound up here for a few minutes).

Anyway, back to the battle.

Thursday, February 21, 2008

Tough to LOOK AT. . .We Need to Remind Ourselves.

This video is very hard to look at. But we NEED to remind ourselves, not just of the events of 9-11, but of the nature of the enemy. We are at war, but so many of our populace simply ignore the fact.

This war is unlike any other in that it is fundamentally based not upon pure political matters like the two world wars, the Korean Conflict and Vietnam, but instead is based upon a distorted version of religious fervor.

One thing that libs do have right is their fear that religion can result in great, unrelenting, irrational violence. The Fascists, socialists and communists knew that too, and therefore they sought to create a religion of the state. The state takes the place of family and God.

Fast forward to today's middle east and outward to the festering pockets of militant extremist Islam, and you have the same thing, without a very clear political goal. The very fact that these people do not even have a clear idea what they would do, in detail, if they were to achieve their goals, speaks volumes about their effort.

Islamic terror will go on, and on. Be brave. We will need it. We will need it much more if we have a weak leader such as Obama, and we will still need it, if our leader is strong such as John McCain.


Monday, December 03, 2007

FAILURE to make Concert

Well I could not make the Church Christmas concert. My pastor joked (I hope he was joking. . .) too bad Chris has to find another Church to go to. . .

You see Pastor Wade is an excellent trombonist in his own right, and now, with me stuck in Mobile, AL . . .or actually flying somewhere over the great U.S. South or Southwest on my way to LAX. . .well, Wade had to go it alone on the Christmas concert. I'm going to really have to make it up to the man. . .to all the guys and gals at the concert.

Maybe I can fix them some kind of great dinner or something.

At least a representative of the Tune family was able to make the concert. Adam played clarinet on the performance at 5pm Sunday. He thought it went well. I know the choir is sounding great, so I had every reason to expect a great concert.

I've learned what happens when you try to stuff a lot into a complicated weekend of air travel and musical performing. Things can go very, very wrong indeed.

Sunday, December 02, 2007

Absolute Nightmare with Airline Travel

This is the worst I've yet experienced with airline travel in doing music. I accepted a gig to go with Direct From Vegas - The Rat Pack and, of course the gig part of this trip went very, very well. However, the airlines and the connections were very bad:

In setting up this blog entry I should explain that the flight out was provided by the producer and this involved getting to LAX Thursday morning. I was told by my company, however that I absolutely could not be out Thursday. So I first figured that I could get a separate leg flight out from Burbank airport and would be able to fly in to Chicago later and join the orchestra and cast in Elgin, IL.

I was able to pull this off with an arrival in Elgin at around 2am Elgin time. So far so good. . .

Now as we flew from O'Hare to Mobile, AL the really bad things began to happen. The set of flights purchased as part of the Rat Pack gig, were designated by the airlines as "use all, or lose all". This was NOT OBVIOUS from an examination of the usual documents seen when scheduling flights. I had very carefully read the internet emails and documents that were provided for this set of flights.

Now, once we spoke to the O'Hare airport ticketing agent SUPERVISOR at the American Airlines desk, we now understood that American Airlines was going to ADAMANTLY stand by this policy of use all legs or lose all legs. Despite the fact that there were plenty of seats available and that the supervisor was aware that this was a group reservation for an orchestra and cast travelling for performances. And also despite the fact that this is the Christmas season, and would normally be a great time for charitable help to others. . .

Nothing was done to truly mitigate the situation. We received sympathetic facial expressions and statements from the desk persons and supervisor at AA ticketing, but there was no way I was going to get on that flight that we had bought and paid for. The steadfast position of AA staff was that each and every dot and tilde of the legalese in the contract MUST have been read, in order to have checked off "I agree" on the website and thus, their part of the contract was complete and no amendments would be able to be made.

Thus, I now had to buy for myself an additional ticket in order to join the cast in Mobile. We had had a very successful concert in Elgin, IL and then went on to have a very, very successful concert in Mobile, AL.

Now this meant four hours of sleep the evening of Fri/Sat and also four hours of sleep on Sat/Sun night's shift. When we transported our nine person group to the Mobile, AL airport, the next really, really bad news came out.

There was a large police blockade on the main roadway into the airport from downtown Mobile. A dead person had been found on this roadway and fully a dozen police crusers were blocking any passage through the road.

This meant that we arrived eight minutes late for check in for my US Airways flight. Once again the desk could truly not help. The theme is consistent, and we realize that we need to be very careful in arriving at airports on time, but also I do not understand why everyone at a ticketing desk has not one scintilla of lattitude in helping the other persons arriving at their desks.

I had now spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars in order to get out on Thurday, as my company needed, and back on Sunday afternoon as my Church Concert needed. But nothing was coming off as planned at all. I was spending money hand over fist in order to get to my gig and to get back from my gig.

The expenses tally:

Roughly $155 outbound flight Burbank to Chicago
Roughly $80 taxi from O'Hare to Elgin
Unexpected $135 cost connecter flight from Chicago to Mobile
Roughly $390 flight home from Mobile (destroyed by the police blockade)

or $760 cost before parking charges
thus I had lost roughly ninety five dollars as I sat in the lounge in the Mobile Airport.

Also, my cell phone battery had died. So I could not be sure that I could communicate on this stuff.

So here I am posting from Mobile, AL and not able to say when I will be back HOME.

and now

Monday, September 03, 2007

Scott Leonard 50th B-Day!

Another wild time we had recently was the very fun 50th birthday celebration for my boss, Scott Leonard (Scott, his brother Mark and Mark Simon are the owners of Western Studio Service).

Although Scott doesn't look a day over thirty, he was, in fact celebrating the great half-century mark, and so we used the "party room" at the Colorado facility. After major set dressing by Carrie Randazzo, and some real cool help from Don Reinhardt and Anders (last name?) from Village Christian School who set up some cool lighting and ran the slide show.

We had a band coming from our Sunday school group, which rocked us with oldies. We also had a very nice bit of fronting the band by Kelly Leonard who did a few tunes, and especially memorable to me, a kickin' "Sweet Home Alabama".

Here are some shots (note the genuine surprise on Scott's face - he thought there was a massive water leak going on upstairs at this building - well that was just the "pretext"):

Catch Up - Interesting Things in the Last Few Months

I've had some very interesting things going on in the last few months. Of course this gave me very little time to post blog entries on the events. The first that comes to mind is the very last gig that I, or anyone else, will do at the Frontier Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.

Nick De Gidido has basically always stayed at the Frontier and has put up his band members there. The Frontier was a great deal and it represents old Las Vegas, so we old fashioned entertainer types love it.

Here are the pics:

So you can tell that this was kinda wild. We had four horns, and guest bass player Gio Valle. We also had a sit in by my trombone teacher's son. Any of you who read all my stuff will know I was taught trombone by studio player (1947 to 1960 or so Paramount Studio Orch) Harold Diner. His son is a great, great drummer - Evan Diner. Evan has played with major persons including Nelson Riddle. So he fit in like perfection. Evan played a "head" with us, and then read a chart. He finds reading fun. Anyway this was a gas.

Monday, August 27, 2007

Touring Western Studio Service

Here is my recent tour of the Main Location in Burbank:
The first image is the main alley in our Burbank 805 S. San Fernando, "main" location. Several of these buildings are either housing sets, lock up storage, or are devoted to individual "mills" (e.g. a set maker's shop).

Right now WSS has roughly 1.8 million square feet of storage in seven locations around the San Fernando Valley and Saugus.

The next image is an office / mill space. Once a manufacturing office or dispatch space, this is now a great area to be used for a production office space. Western generally offers superior rates for your production office needs. Also, Western has nearby storage for your sets, and can sometimes provide locations when industrial sites are the thing you need to do a shoot.

The third image is the doorway and front of a large warehouse building. This is our core business and we have dedicated warehousemen and truck drivers to make your storage of media-related materials a productive part of your job.

We also have an image of the interior of a warehouse being filled. You can also see a set of our grips loading sets into one of our warehouses.

Saturday, August 25, 2007

Living in Hollywood

It is sometimes remarkeable how we live here in the media capital of the world. As an example I've loaded a picture of Adam waiting in line right in front of Disney Studio's office complex with the identifying Seven Dwarves columns. Adam and I were over at Toontown Online's live meet "Toonfest". So we had fun and we only had to drive five or six miles over to Burbank to join in with the fun.

We saw some new features and Adam got to play for quite a while on some high end workstations set up for the Toonfest visitors.

Adam and his friend Philip also got to go onstage to participate in a Toontown Online trivia contest. They didn't ace the quiz but they got most right and had some real fun all day long.

Meanwhile, I continue to be very lucky and blessed in terms of getting to perform on trombone and in terms of generally having good productive work to do.

Hopefully, I can also contribute at work in terms of developing their web site. Now people often expect services to be offered via a web site logon. We have the server software, we simply need to development side. Once I can get the financial side set then I can concentrate on the development side.

Here is an example of our office having been redone in order to become a "set" for the recent Comedy Central show "American Body Shop":


Sunday, July 08, 2007

Getting Back to the Blogosphere, the Web

Now seems like the time that I will be blogging more and will be back developing my personal website. I'm moving the project at work into the final stages. This means that we will be doing work with more modern GL tools. This includes the ability to program using Visual Basic and kindred VB (e.g. VBA) to achieve business goals.

Some of those goals will be:

Advanced cash management
Budgeting (a first here)
Accrual Accounting
Management reporting of pricing and economics for storage rentals
Manpower costing and efficiency analysis
Pension accounting and compliance

This list is not necessarily in the order of importance. In fact, this is one of those situations where so many things are highly important that one wants to dive into all of them. We have some advances in each of those areas already, even without proper modern GL tools. And of course, a GL is a GL even if it were done using paper ledgers. The truth is, however, that modern tools allow for much quicker reporting and updating. Those tools allow for reuse of the existing information and extension of systems to cover specific areas unique to our business line.
Now, I'm also very excited about what I saw during the recent vote on cloture in Washington D.C. The blogs helped, along with radio, to make the "people" (and I truly mean that in the sense the founders meant. . .just ordinary folk, who would not otherwise be directly involved in Federal political action) have a voice, a powerful voice with their elected officials. That means that people decided using the now omnipresent information they receive via the internet, to actually read a bill before congress, and to then use additional information provided by a wide variety of persons who had also looked but who have more extensive legal and civic backgrounds, to make decisions and then to contact their representatives and elected officials.

At one point in the debate, the Capitol switchboard went down and needed to be extended and rebooted. At many points it seemed as if individual fax machines were running out of paper, or ink or both. Phones were being answered, but with much difficulty.


Too bad that the political animal wants to remain aloof from his or her obligation to the people. It is right at this point in time that (mostly democrats. . .a few dinosaur republicans) reps on capitol hill are talking about reviving the fairness doctrine. For those who do not know what that is:

It's pretty simple -- the government says what you will receive through the media. Big Brother kinda stuff! Not good!

Now, it may very well be that some sort of forum for economically challenged viewpoints should be provided (although I think we already have that in PBS - they generally trot out the looney left's every quirky whim on various subjects; of course there is also the major newspaper and TV outlets: NBC, CBS, CNBC, CNN, Wash Post, NYT Chi Trib, LAT, and the various "magazines"- these all are guaranteed to cover the left's perspective on each and every issue of the time). Right now, we have a pretty decent balance of discussion, IF, AND ONLY IF, you factor in the ability of the right to speak through radio. Once you establish that every outlet (frequently these actions actually exempt TV and Newpapers - WHY IS THAT?) has to balance time for both sides of the issue, you remove the commercial appeal to all outlets, thus making competition in political commentary obsolete. You establish that the commentary is managed by the government.

We should look at:

We need to kill this stuff! I was a regulator. I know that regulators should not establish political speech content. They should be kept a million miles away from that!

This isn't even a conservative position. This is a bipartisan position taken from the minds of such folk as Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Truman, and Eisenhower. You simply cannot cede your right to hear to the government.

Let us hope this stuff dies.



Thursday, June 14, 2007

Roger Armstrong and ADP and oh boy what a day

I’m just about to fold up and get ready to go to the Simi ValleyTowne Center” and do a gig with Bob Couto and his Big Band.  I had an “interesting” day.  That is in the sense, that the Chinese curse “may you live in ‘interesting’ times” means.  We heard from ADP saying that our regular Union payroll would not occur unless we wired money to them.  Well, that was because they did not release the payroll when asked to by our Payroll person.  It came down to a “he said/she said” sort of thing and ADP did do the good thing of fighting to get the PR out.  So it is only ½ demerit when taken in entirety.  I’m really not that hot to judge them hard.  I feel they are strong in the area of attention to changes in regulations. They are also dragging their big, bureaucratic organization forward, which, in itself, is quite an accomplishment.


Anyway we got an agreement to do the thing, including banking the way it should be. [I’m still holding my breath . . .]  I will make the transfer I calculated as being needed.


When pulling out of the driveway this morning I saw an old buddy.  That is Roger Armstrong.  He was that old neighbor who is the one with everything.  REALLY.  Roger is a nice guy and I like him.  I’ve always admired how he changed things up later in his life, after having become an executive at a motion picture studio.  He chose to go to law school and he did well, ultimately making law review, and then working at two law firms here in Los Angeles.  The second made him partner really early in the game.  So, in effect he is a dyed-in-the-wool genius lawyer for entertainment intellectual property and deal making. His wife and kid are also pretty likeable. Lucky for us Tunes, he hangs out with Ed Balet next door.  So we get to see Roger once in a while. 


Cool.  Roger is now living in Park City, UT and of course his son, Brett got in 40 days of skiing last ski season.  Boy, oh boy.  Here are some people who are working hard and also living the good life.  Frankly, I’m also fascinated by the intellectual property arena, so, who knows, Roger and I may have some interesting conversations.


Chris signing off





Wednesday, April 25, 2007

Good thing mail works - Almost the only way to POST

I almost think that there are not enough hours in the 24 hour day.  I’m constantly moving from work to home to work to home, with an occasional stop off at church.  Tonight, maybe I can stop at church.  Maybe.


I’m also helping a person with trombone playing, so I may be late.


I’m up to my A** in Alligators to quote my predecessor here.  The image does conjure up a dangerously busy person.  I’m managing to keep the plates spinning. 


[I prefer that old image of the guy who went out on the Ed Sullivan Show and started plates spinning on top of those long rods. . .]


At least now, I’ve got the email set up so that I’m   That is as it should be.


The financial conversion is still moving along, even if it is a bit sluggish.  I’m getting through this month’s close, with help from all those good workers we have.  So, with that and some prayer, we’ll most likely be OK.





Wednesday, April 11, 2007

Mailing it in

I’m testing this facility to allow me to post blog entries via email.

This should allow for an easier way to put up entries.

Today is my birthday. I’m old. Well . . . maybe not that old.

Gina gave me a nice plant for the office and I got lots of cards and stuff. They had sundae icecream at lunch.

Overall this was not bad.

Friday, April 06, 2007

Bach 42B is great. . .and IE speedup works

I'm pretty certain I'll buy the horn. The closed wrap model is probably a good thing, since I'm sorta clumsy and would likely bend up an open-wrap horn. So, together with a reasonable price, that makes the decision to buy pretty easy.

The hack increasing the number of simultaneous connections to IE (I'm using ver 7) seems to work well. The same site also had a way of increasing speed with Firefox. I use both browsers now, quite often. IE gets used particularly when an ASP.NET type page seems not to work right with Firefox.

I am a bachelor now for a week. Michele and Adam went to a Mexico mission trip where lots of Christians from all over North America go down and help churches in Mexico. They should be back in a week. I may see if there was any blogging or pictures available of previous trips.

Michele is warning me that the house better be neat when she returns. Maybe this is an opportunity to just focus on cleaning and organizing. I'm playing music on Easter Sunday, so that starts really early at 7am and on Saturday I'm working, so there really is no reason to goof that much with the computer or anything else this weekend. The bedroom could really use some organizing. The big thing would be to get the records back into the storage shelving above the garage parking area.

The garden is doing well. We had a landscaper come and recommend and then Mich and I went out and bought plants on the cheap. The New Zealand Flax that I like is in a few places as are "Butterfly bushes" and other neat plants. So the "cottage garden" look is more the style out front like Michele wants.

Seem to be making progress in dealing with CarrierPak and Thoroughbred Basic and so on at WSS. The way that you "expand" database files is now obvious. Maybe some other BASIC utility could be used to make copies of files and convert them. . . . hmmm. . . .

Signing off

Wednesday, March 21, 2007

Bach 42B

I'm deciding if I will buy Dick Nash's Bach 42B. Steve Ferguson had it at his store. I took it home to try out. It plays well. From the serial number, it appears to be of 1982 or 83 vintage, so it is actually newer than virtually any of my other horns.

Nonetheless, it is of the older design. The closed, compact valve section. The question I guess is how much better does a symphony tenor with F attachment play if it has the open valve design? Is this really a big deal?

I'm thinking it really may not be a big deal. I played an open version 88H about five months ago, having borrowed it, and it was not that much different.

I'll just have to decide. I could use a large bore with F attach.

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